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Fairfield Council reconsiders youth centre

06 Nov, 2009 04:24 PM
Fairfield Council is reconsidering building a youth centre in Fairfield just weeks after scrapping plans for one that

would have been partially funded by Visy Recyling.

The $400,000 grant from Visy was rejected in August with the council saying it would have meant the loss of 57 carparking spaces and total costs $1.8 million.

In the agenda of an Outcomes Committee Report, which will be considered on Tuesday evening, the council has outlined plans for a new youth services centre that would not be sponsored by Visy.

Liberal Councillor Zaya Toma said the council was under pressure to produce a youth centre but didn't want to appear to have backflipped on their controversial decision to reject the grant from Visy.

``They have succumbed to the pressure to build a youth centre but are being stubborn and don't want

to look like they have made a mistake by rejecting the money,'' Cr Toma said.

``If they couldn't afford a youth centre when three parties were funding it, I want to know how they

can afford it now,'' he said.

Labor Councillor Frank Carboni said the council was always committed to building a youth centre and that it would cost less money to build if they did not to have to comply with contractual agreements with Visy.

``The Visy Care Youth Centre would have cost the council nearly $2 million and the loss of 57 carparking spaces,'' Cr Carboni said.

Cr Carboni said the council will have complete control over the youth centre and will be able to determine ``how, when, where and why'' it was used without Visy.

``The Visy agreement would not have allowed us to adapt the centre to what the youth of Fairfield

wanted,'' he said.

The council has not yet decided if the new youth centre will be built in Fairfield CBD or added to the Fairfield leisure centre.

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I can see both sides of the story, but I wish they would just build the centre rather than discussing it so much.
Posted by Azza J, 6/11/2009 5:43:37 PM, on Fairfield Champion
So we finally came to an agreement by both parties. Wasn't it worth fighting for. Allow me to suggest that perhaps a seperate venue for the youths would be a better choice rather than combining the two together. It just may cause too many disruptions with the amount of people who also use the leisure centre facilities. Allow the youth to have a say.....
Posted by Giulietta Citton, 6/11/2009 8:09:59 PM, on Fairfield Champion
When will Councillor Toma explain his political links and secret meetings with Visy representatives the company that donated $200,000 to the Liberal Party of Australia? Why does he continually promote a commercial venture with this company after fairfield council has said no to a Visy centre..... please explain.
Posted by Robyn, 7/11/2009 11:34:11 AM, on Fairfield Champion
Hi Robyn, you will be glad to know that I don't have any political links to Visy. Visy has donated more money to Labor than they have to the Liberals. And while I have met with Visy once, the Mayor Nick Lalich has had many meetings with them. As I said I have had only one meeting with them, which wasn't a secret because I reported it to the media and to the Council. The Labor Mayor Nick Lalich on the other hand is yet to explain this. Maybe he or Councillor Lawrence White would like to explain that?
Posted by Zaya Toma, 7/11/2009 6:45:15 PM, on Fairfield Champion
I have trouble seeing how Visy's money is now somehow tainted when the ALP themselves touted it as such a worthy benevolence back when they were getting mileage from backing a youth centre. It was important enough back then for the NSW Labor Government to commit a matching amount, and for the Council to pledge the same. And when it comes to political donations from big business, the ALP really are living in a glass house. The whole political donation mess needs to be sorted - few businesses show such largesse without anticipation of benefit in return.
Posted by Bill Cashman, 7/11/2009 8:28:32 PM, on Fairfield Champion
About time. I hope Council now meets with key youth services stakeholders and the youth of Fairfield City when planning the facility. No point building a white elephant only to make it look like something is done. And more importantly Council budgets for the staffing and maintenance of the centre - otherwise it's just talk with little outcome.
Posted by Markus Lambert, 8/11/2009 7:09:02 AM, on Fairfield Champion
Dear Robyn, Perhaps you should ask Councillor White that question. He always seems to be well informed in advance of the goings on of other peoples lives. Maybe he is working undercover? Secret meetings? It certainly can't be secret if you know about it. Get a life Robyn! Joseph Adams Australian Business Party
Posted by Joseph Adams, 8/11/2009 9:13:56 AM, on Fairfield Champion
I think Labor would do well not to trying to raise the spectre of 'donations'. It is a topic that they would be on exremely shaky ground. You know what they say about people in glass houses. How can Labor now turn around and try and demonise Visy, when for so long they have used the Visy Youth Centre project in their election campaigns and general bragging. In recent weeks, we have had backflips on carparks, backflips on youth centres. I'm waiting for the backflip on Fairfield Farm now. There's been more blackflips than an Olympic gymast. It's amazing what people will do when under so much pressure. Backflips and scare mongering. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Just ask the man with all the aliases.
Posted by Col Irwin, 8/11/2009 1:20:10 PM, on Fairfield Champion
Bill, Just want to clear a few issues. As a Councillor who is responsible,and has the facts,for making desicions,let me make it quite clear,i am quite happy with the desicion made.The reason for this is quite simple,it is in the best interest of the ratepayers and the youth of Fairfield. Nobody is against Visy or their money,we would welcome any donation they wish to give,but it must be in the interest of the ratepayers and the youth,without jepordisation.Quite simply the Visy youth Center project might have been a good idea in its infantry, that was many years ago.The landscape in that time has dramaticly changed,the cost blowout was in the Millions to the ratepayers,how could a responsible council vote to borrow millions,commit to contractual agreements that would place ratepayers liable, not to mention the loss of 57 carparking spaces. These spaces if replaced would cost further millions.There are many other reasons why the desicion was made. Labor knew that it wouldnt be a popular desicion,but no doubt it was the right one.We're not here to bow down to a few people who read media articles believing that they have the information to comment on such a big issues just to be popular.
Posted by frank carbone, 8/11/2009 5:31:17 PM, on Fairfield Champion
Sorry Frank - it was your Party that made political capital out of the proposal year after year when it looked popular, and your Party that ultimately delayed the implementation. Had it been built when promised, there wouldn't have been any issues. If there's anyone to be blamed for a cost blowout, it has to be Council. And why was it appropriate to have the development where planned a decade ago, but now car-parking takes precedence? I think we all know who plays the popularity game - it's just that the public are tired of spin.
Posted by Bill Cashman, 8/11/2009 6:50:58 PM, on Fairfield Champion
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